[Old Grey]

I think this line should be added.

Start the IDE, select File->Open, navigate to the location you downloaded Speeduino to and open this.
Select speeduino.ino
Set the board type: Tools->Board->Arduino Mega 2560 or Mega ADK (This is the only board currently supported)
Click the 'Verify' icon in the top left corner (Looks like a tick)

I got to the "navigate to the location" and there was 36 items, so I looked for the biggest one "speeduino.ino" and it rang a bell.

Also when I Extracted it I got a lot of these "Do you want to copy folder without encryption" messages, whatever that is.

[PSIG]

Cool, thanks. Please check it again, and I did some other section tweaks, like pics of serial chips, button icons, etc.
http://speeduino.com/wiki/index.php/Com ... e_firmware

David

[Old Grey]

I'm slowly working through the software for the first time - I'm not very good at that - and it seams to work straight off the bat with the instructions except for that little bit that slowed me down somewhat.

I'm now on Ardu-sim, and it's such a muddled mess I've basically spent 3 hrs to only downloaded the software. The compiler get stuck, and I'm pretty feed up with it.

[PSIG]

Perhaps we should include a "first time" practice reference, such as linking to Arduino.cc for compiling and burning a Mega for the first time? Would doing the blink example be a good first-step to being comfy with this portion before attempting it? Is it knowing how, or how with Speeduino, that would be the primary hiccup? Or something else? Sharpen the tip for me.

Yes, Ardu-stim is a bit sketchy, as it (like many similar projects) assumes you already know what they are talking about or what to do at a given point. For example, other EFI systems have made little 'batch' files that just did the steps for you, instead of telling you what to do. Would similar "installers" be of substantial value for many?

David

PS: Part of my point, is if there are hard/software or OS issues mucking the process, I'd rather they be sorted with mundane Arduino solutions. This not only has a large reference base, but also diverts frustration from Speeduino or Ardu-Stim to the real issues. Speedy does not need bad vibes that are avoidable.

[apollard]

I'd think links to the Arduino.cc site for basic software compile & upload would be best. I linked here from Arduino sites, but for many this will be thier first Arduino try.

[Old Grey]

You probably don't need the Arduino basics for Speeduino FW install.
I did the Arduino Ytube tutorials 10 mths ago but have totally forgotten them, but the instructions were good enough for me to get it working so it's probably not needed.

The other problem I had was when I extracted the Speeduino FW in Win, because I got a lot of these "Do you want to copy folder without encryption" messages, whatever that is. Are you supposed to extract?

The other instruction that are probably needed is when you update. Do you just follow the instructions again, or is there a short cut.


On the other hand Ardu-stim is so complicated you need to know the basics if you don't have the instructions.

These are my Instructions so far, which are enough to get by even if you don't know the basics.
Download Ardu-Stim - small button on right side above files (down arrow to cup) and extract
https://gitlab.com/libreems-suite/ardu-stim/tree/master
Download SerialUI
http://flyingcarsandstuff.com/projects/ ... /download/
Install SerialUI Library into Arduino IDE and Compile and Upload Ardu-Stim to Arduino
https://www.arduino.cc/en/Guide/Libraries#toc2
Download Druid4Arduino and run
http://flyingcarsandstuff.com/projects/ ... /download/
Ardu-stim Wheel Patterns
https://blogs.libreems.org/ardu-stim-patterns/

My compile got suck, but after unplugging it for 3hrs it suddenly started working and loaded. Who the hell knows why.
Now I'm stuck on Druid4Arduino because the buttons don't seam to work, or I don't understand what it wants, and it's slow and sluggy - baud 9600 -

EDIT
Added Ardu-stim Wheel Patterns to above guide

[apollard]

I finally gave up on getting ardustim to do a sweep. So I tried the pot, which it is supposed to default to after 5 seconds w/o a serial connection. Except it didn't. If you are trying that, the code for the pot function is commented out, you have to uncomment. Then it works fine and I could do sweeps manually using the pot.

Useful program no doubt, but you have to know arduino code & use to get it going.

[PSIG]

... The other problem I had was when I extracted the Speeduino FW in Win, because I got a lot of these "Do you want to copy folder without encryption" messages, whatever that is. Are you supposed to extract?

I have never seen that, and I don't know, though I assume it is 'without'. That should be an OS or machine settings issue, not Speedy or Ardu-Stim, and another possible reason to 'debug' with a generic Arduino routine before doing Speeduino?

The other instruction that are probably needed is when you update. Do you just follow the instructions again, or is there a short cut.

Play it again, Sam. I'll add that to remove the question.

On the other hand Ardu-stim is so complicated you need to know the basics if you don't have the instructions.

These are my Instructions so far, which are enough to get by even if you don't know the basics.
Download Ardu-Stim - small button on right side above files (down arrow to cup) and extract
https://gitlab.com/libreems-suite/ardu-stim/tree/master
Download SerialUI
http://flyingcarsandstuff.com/projects/ ... /download/
Install SerialUI Library into Arduino IDE and Compile and Upload Ardu-Stim to Arduino
https://www.arduino.cc/en/Guide/Libraries#toc2
Download Druid4Arduino and run
http://flyingcarsandstuff.com/projects/ ... /download/

Great! Though it is an example of confusion, if things like "small button on right side" is different with another OS. Again, a reason some instructions are a bit sketch, so different system operators are not confused or frustrated. A fine line here.

My compile got suck, but after unplugging it for 3hrs it suddenly started working and loaded. Who the hell knows why.

Likely another OS-specific issue. OS issues are the bane of all multi- and cross-platform thingies.

Now I'm stuck on Druid4Arduino because the buttons don't seam to work, or I don't understand what it wants, and it's slow and sluggy - baud 9600 -

115200! In all cases, Speduino uses 115200. There is one exception, but the Arduino IDE does an automatic override, so it is not something to worry about. Thanks for that highlight, and I will find places to insert the standard Speeduino baud rate in the Wiki (already in Bluetooth section). This all helps make the Wiki more usable!

David

[Old Grey]

I tried another Win7 64 SP1 and it still says "Do you want to copy folder without encryption". Skip produces nothing and Yes produces files.

I looked it up
Appears to be a bug in how Windows handles zip files created on a Mac, as explained by http://blogs.msdn.com/b/asklar/archive/ ... ypted.aspx

Great! Though it is an example of confusion, if things like "small button on right side" is different with another OS. Again, a reason some instructions are a bit sketch, so different system operators are not confused or frustrated. A fine line here.

The reason I mentioned the button for the Ardu-Stim download is because I spent ages trawling pages looking for the download - it didn't catch my eye so I couldn't find it. It's just a Github webpage, and in Opera, Chrome, and IE it's the same so it might be ok.

For Druid4Arduino 115200 was what I thought, based on the Arduino upload instructions to the mega, but it just wouldn't connect until I tried the default of 9600.

EDIT
Suddenly stuff is coming through Druid4Arduino with text in bottom panel. Now to figure out how to do stuff.

[apollard]

I tried another Win7 64 SP1 and it still says "Do you want to copy folder without encryption". Skip produces nothing and Yes produces files.

I looked it up
Appears to be a bug in how Windows handles zip files created on a Mac, as explained by http://blogs.msdn.com/b/asklar/archive/ ... ypted.aspx

Odd. I'm running a Win 7 64 bit with SP1 and have not had that issue. Hasn't shown on my Win 7 32 bit at work either. Good old Windows...