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Problem with m50 pnp speeduino

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:48 am
by marogarage
Hi, i have speeduino for m50nv 2.0rev without vr conditioner, im using m52 hall crank sensor. My problem is that ecu can't see any rpm. I find out that VR1+ and VR1- are connected with 1Kohm resistance and VR1- so i have +5v at both pins(VR1+ should be +5v output power supply for sensor and VR1- should be signal input high and low condition, am i right?). Have you guys any ideas what may be wrong?

Re: Problem with m50 pnp speeduino

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:51 am
by jonbill
vr1+ is the signal from the hall sensor and vr1- isn't used with hall sensor.
the sensor also needs +5v from speeduino and a ground at the speeduino.
you should get a 5v square wave on vr1+ when the engine is turning.
I'm pretty sure this is in the wiki.

Re: Problem with m50 pnp speeduino

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:37 am
by theonewithin
As above. Read through the wiki.

Or speak with the maker of your board.

Re: Problem with m50 pnp speeduino

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:40 am
by marogarage
jonbill wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:51 am vr1+ is the signal from the hall sensor and vr1- isn't used with hall sensor.
the sensor also needs +5v from speeduino and a ground at the speeduino.
you should get a 5v square wave on vr1+ when the engine is turning.
I'm pretty sure this is in the wiki.
Thanks a lot! So basically i need to make sensor signal into VR1+, sensor supply from +5v and sensor ground into ecu? it sounds good but why do i have +5v at vr1+? is this correct?

Re: Problem with m50 pnp speeduino

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:50 am
by marogarage
theonewithin wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:37 am As above. Read through the wiki.

Or speak with the maker of your board.
I wish i can find info about pazi88's board. On wiki i can see only v0.3 and v0.4 official board support

Re: Problem with m50 pnp speeduino

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:50 am
by jonbill
Yes, that sounds right.
I don't know whether you should or shouldn't be able to read +5v on VR1+ - do you have the jumpers on the board correct for hall?
on the 0.4.3 boards there are jumpers to select direct or signal conditioner (hall/ vr) and whether to enable a pullup for the hall. (which suggests maybe it should be pulled up to 5v, but I don't understand electronics well enough to be sure!)

Re: Problem with m50 pnp speeduino

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:10 am
by marogarage
jonbill wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:50 am Yes, that sounds right.
I don't know whether you should or shouldn't be able to read +5v on VR1+ - do you have the jumpers on the board correct for hall?
on the 0.4.3 boards there are jumpers to select direct or signal conditioner (hall/ vr) and whether to enable a pullup for the hall. (which suggests maybe it should be pulled up to 5v, but I don't understand electronics well enough to be sure!)
jumpers configiratuion is correct with official pazi schematics, but it makes the +5v at VR1+, im confused idk is this correct

Re: Problem with m50 pnp speeduino

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:16 am
by theonewithin
That's correct.

The jumper pulls the input up to 5v.

Your sensor pulls it to ground when a tooth passes.

Re: Problem with m50 pnp speeduino

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:20 am
by marogarage
theonewithin wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:16 am That's correct.

The jumper pulls the input up to 5v.

Your sensor pulls it to ground when a tooth passes.
Thanks mate! So i will make VR1+ as signal, some +5v to supply sensor and sensor ground to ecu and it should work. I will let you know if it worked. Thanks a lot guys!

Re: Problem with m50 pnp speeduino

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:37 am
by marogarage
One more question, will be it correct if i get +5v for sensor supply from VR1-? i can see +5v there